Comments on: Salvation by Faith…and the Sabbath? http://www.shwiggie.com/salvation-by-faith-and-the-sabbath/ Random Thoughts from a Random Mind Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:23:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Scott http://www.shwiggie.com/salvation-by-faith-and-the-sabbath/comment-page-1/#comment-5126 Scott Fri, 13 Jan 2012 03:20:46 +0000 http://www.shwiggie.com/?p=259#comment-5126 FYI, Joseph never slept with Potiphar's wife. Also, Abraham didn't observe the Sabbath. He was never commanded to, either. Neither were Gentiles...which is why the apostles in the book of Acts concluded through the direction of the Holy Spirit that Gentile believers did not have to become Jewish (oh, BTW, are you a Jew?) before they could be saved. We get God's grace on the same basis as Abraham: through faith. Not our adherence to a law not directed to us, a fact illustrated quite clearly in the institution of the Passover. Now, God's law is, as stated in Romans 7:12, "holy, and just, and good." Just like God. As such, only God can follow it. So you keep on trying to live up to His example in hopes that it'll be enough, and I'll keep on trying to live up to it because I want to...all the while having peace in His accomplished work and His continuing rest. And if you don't want to listen to me, read the first half of the book of Romans, particularly chapters 4-7. FYI, Joseph never slept with Potiphar’s wife.

Also, Abraham didn’t observe the Sabbath. He was never commanded to, either. Neither were Gentiles…which is why the apostles in the book of Acts concluded through the direction of the Holy Spirit that Gentile believers did not have to become Jewish (oh, BTW, are you a Jew?) before they could be saved. We get God’s grace on the same basis as Abraham: through faith. Not our adherence to a law not directed to us, a fact illustrated quite clearly in the institution of the Passover.

Now, God’s law is, as stated in Romans 7:12, “holy, and just, and good.” Just like God. As such, only God can follow it. So you keep on trying to live up to His example in hopes that it’ll be enough, and I’ll keep on trying to live up to it because I want to…all the while having peace in His accomplished work and His continuing rest.

And if you don’t want to listen to me, read the first half of the book of Romans, particularly chapters 4-7.

]]> By: laizzer http://www.shwiggie.com/salvation-by-faith-and-the-sabbath/comment-page-1/#comment-5125 laizzer Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:02:24 +0000 http://www.shwiggie.com/?p=259#comment-5125 God from the start used Israel for the safeguard of His laws. Evey author in the bible was a Jew. Paul says all scripture was wriiten by inspiration of God. So the law of God if not Jewish despite the fact that God entrusted them wt His law. The law of God (wc includes the Sabbath) was there at creation. If not why did God destroy men when they sinned by flood, what was wrong with Cain killing Abel n Joseph sleeping with Portipher's wife. Gods law is ertenal - Christ says its easy for the heavens and earth to pass away than for His law to pass away, even the tiniest part of it.We dont decide what we take or dont take in His law. God from the start used Israel for the safeguard of His laws. Evey author in the bible was a Jew. Paul says all scripture was wriiten by inspiration of God. So the law of God if not Jewish despite the fact that God entrusted them wt His law. The law of God (wc includes the Sabbath) was there at creation. If not why did God destroy men when they sinned by flood, what was wrong with Cain killing Abel n Joseph sleeping with Portipher’s wife. Gods law is ertenal – Christ says its easy for the heavens and earth to pass away than for His law to pass away, even the tiniest part of it.We dont decide what we take or dont take in His law.

]]> By: Scott http://www.shwiggie.com/salvation-by-faith-and-the-sabbath/comment-page-1/#comment-3839 Scott Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:57:17 +0000 http://www.shwiggie.com/?p=259#comment-3839 Also, the <a href=http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=-LYJ-VQ3Wec&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3D-LYJ-VQ3Wec rel="nofollow">comments on that video</a> are pretty weak. It's a six-minute clip of a 40+ minute message. If not seen it in totality, there's very little basis to nitpick it. But it begs a question as to whom I should trust: a learned and blessed pastor with the anointing of God on his life and ministry, or keyboard theologians betrayed by their obviously superficial understanding of God's Word? Every day is holy to God, and it's up to us to work towards living up to His standards on each one, not to achieve salvation but because we already have it through grace. Also, the comments on that video are pretty weak. It’s a six-minute clip of a 40+ minute message. If not seen it in totality, there’s very little basis to nitpick it.

But it begs a question as to whom I should trust: a learned and blessed pastor with the anointing of God on his life and ministry, or keyboard theologians betrayed by their obviously superficial understanding of God’s Word? Every day is holy to God, and it’s up to us to work towards living up to His standards on each one, not to achieve salvation but because we already have it through grace.

]]> By: Scott http://www.shwiggie.com/salvation-by-faith-and-the-sabbath/comment-page-1/#comment-3838 Scott Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:56:39 +0000 http://www.shwiggie.com/?p=259#comment-3838 Exactly right. I've editted the post with a video from Bro. Adrian Rogers on the subject that sums it up quite nicely. Exactly right. I’ve editted the post with a video from Bro. Adrian Rogers on the subject that sums it up quite nicely.

]]> By: Mike http://www.shwiggie.com/salvation-by-faith-and-the-sabbath/comment-page-1/#comment-3837 Mike Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:14:36 +0000 http://www.shwiggie.com/?p=259#comment-3837 The command for the Sabbath was fulfilled by Christ who was and is the perfect "rest." The command for the Sabbath was fulfilled by Christ who was and is the perfect “rest.”

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